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May 5, 2021 @ 4:00 pm – 5:00 pm
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Lindsay Archuleta

Is That a Fact? A Conversation with Robert Krulwich led by Fred Dust

A special event following this year’s annual President’s Lecture

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2021
Time: 4:00 p.m. MDT
Location: Zoom (registrants will be sent a Zoom link to participate)
Admission: $150 per screen. Registration required, please register here.
Each registration includes a signed copy of Fred’s book, Making Conversation: Seven Essential Elements of Meaningful Communication.
Limited to the first 50 screens. $120 per screen is tax deductible.

Proceeds from this event will benefit the Creative Thought Forum at SAR and provide funding to bring exciting and inventive thinkers whose work illuminates topics of broad public concern.

Join Robert Krulwich, retired co-host of Radiolab, former news correspondent, and host and executive editor of PBS’s documentary series NOVA scienceNOW, in conversation with Fred Dust, author of Making Conversation: Seven Essential Elements of Meaningful Communication and former Global Managing Partner of IDEO, to explore how we can use conversation as a tool to discuss complex social and scientific issues. Using the 7 C’s of a meaningful conversation that Dust lays out in his book—Commitment, Creative Listening, Clarity, Context, Constraints, Change, and Create—participants will begin to understand how to ascertain what is fact from what feels like fact. Dust will probe deeper by asking what sources are used to determine how we come to understand the world around us and what influences our thinking about scientific issues.



Robert Krulwich

Robert Krulwich.

Join former co-host of Radiolab, Robert Krulwich for this virtual conversation and live Q&A. Krulwich is one of the most original and widely listened to broadcasters in the world. His series, Radiolab, explores “big ideas” and the mysteries of science and life through visceral storytelling. Krulwich draws from decades of experience as a special correspondent for ABC News; his regular contributions to NightlineABC News Tonight, and Good Morning America; and his role as host and executive editor of PBS’s documentary series NOVA scienceNOW to share insights on where technology can take us and why communities trust the sources they do when it comes to information about potential futures.


Fred Dust

Fred Dust

Fred Dust was a Senior Partner and Global Managing Director at international design firm IDEO. A leading voice and practitioner of human-centered design and networked innovation, he helps organizations in media, finance, retail, and health confront disruption stemming from shifts in consumer behavior, social trends, economic pressures, and new technology. Prior to IDEO, Dust worked as an architect and spent eight years working with independent artists and major art organizations. He chairs the board of Parsons and sits on the board of NPR and the Sundance Institute. Dust’s recent work focuses on helping organizations—philanthropic, governmental, entrepreneurial—work together to maximize their social impact.

Thank you to our Sponsors

This conversation is sponsored by Susan Foote & Stephen Feinberg, Michele Cook & John Camp, Kimberley & Scott Sheffield, and the Creative Thought Forum annual sponsors.

A special thank you to members of the Founders’ Society who support SAR’s position as a national leader in generating cutting-edge work in the social sciences and Native American arts through the Creative Thought Forum.


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